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		<title>By: Ana</title>
		<link>http://finalfashion.ca/just-a-thought-two-kinds-of-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-168120</link>
		<dc:creator>Ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is an old article, but I must thank you for it.

I&#039;m in the process of setting up my own, art-featuring blog (like the art section of Coilhouse or like &lt;a href=&#039;http://thombeau.blogspot.com/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;form is void&lt;/a&gt;, and I&#039;ve been reading a lot of Problogger.

But even though I find the articles good, after a while the whole &#039;make money, make money, &lt;b&gt;make. money&lt;/b&gt;!&#039; gets a bit too much for someone who&#039;s looking up to Who-bloggers and hobby bloggers.
When they talk about, say, choosing a niche, it seems like you should first choose by what is popular/profitable right now, and only then consider if you are into that particular niche.

I&#039;d really like to see a metablog aimed at Who-bloggers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is an old article, but I must thank you for it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in the process of setting up my own, art-featuring blog (like the art section of Coilhouse or like <a href="http://thombeau.blogspot.com/" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fthombeau.blogspot.com%2F','form+is+void')" rel="nofollow">form is void</a>, and I&#8217;ve been reading a lot of Problogger.</p>
<p>But even though I find the articles good, after a while the whole &#8216;make money, make money, <b>make. money</b>!&#8217; gets a bit too much for someone who&#8217;s looking up to Who-bloggers and hobby bloggers.<br />
When they talk about, say, choosing a niche, it seems like you should first choose by what is popular/profitable right now, and only then consider if you are into that particular niche.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d really like to see a metablog aimed at Who-bloggers.</p>
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		<title>By: final fashion &#187; Career Karma &#8211; Tricia Campbell Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>final fashion &#187; Career Karma &#8211; Tricia Campbell Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a stylist who-blogs &#8211; why did you decide to start a blog, and how does the blog complement your career? i decided [...]</description>
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		<title>By: M.E. Williams</title>
		<link>http://finalfashion.ca/just-a-thought-two-kinds-of-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-66716</link>
		<dc:creator>M.E. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a pro-blogger, I worked my butt off for about a year, and aside from getting some notice in PC Magazine just before the plug was pulled by our parent company, I found it difficult to make headway in the market. I can&#039;t describe, for example, the days I spent trying to come up with ways to get in on the promotional opportunities that our competitors seemed to have just by having a very loud voice or by being the online arm of a print publication. I did this with a freelance wage and the backing of a huge internet company.

Once you start, it&#039;s difficult to get noticed, and what I find both interests and repels me in a number of the blogs I read that don&#039;t belong to larger networks is the cult-of-personality vibe. It seems to be what&#039;s rewarded, if you&#039;re starting without the backing of a professional advertising and marketing arm: lots of photos of yourself, lots of this-is-what-I-do.

Another good point to note is that a lot of the &quot;pro bloggers&quot; you mention &lt;i&gt;do not write their own content&lt;/i&gt;. Yes, they generate some of it, and might have been on their own when they were starting out (and when the field was a lot less crowded). However, go to Apartment Therapy now and see how many posts are written by Maxwell? See how many people are writing posts, period?

Many popular &quot;blogs&quot; are actually small topical news organizations, and a number of the &quot;blogs&quot; listed on the recent 25 Best list in &lt;i&gt;Time&lt;/i&gt; -- like Metafilter and the Huffington Post (how is it super-different from Salon.com?) -- seem an awful lot more like &quot;sites&quot; to me -- the point is that there&#039;s plenty of content being generated and, in at least a few cases, it&#039;s either user-generated, or generated by people who will do it for the publicity or just because they enjoy being offered a large soapbox, or etc.

Eh, just some thoughts. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a pro-blogger, I worked my butt off for about a year, and aside from getting some notice in PC Magazine just before the plug was pulled by our parent company, I found it difficult to make headway in the market. I can&#8217;t describe, for example, the days I spent trying to come up with ways to get in on the promotional opportunities that our competitors seemed to have just by having a very loud voice or by being the online arm of a print publication. I did this with a freelance wage and the backing of a huge internet company.</p>
<p>Once you start, it&#8217;s difficult to get noticed, and what I find both interests and repels me in a number of the blogs I read that don&#8217;t belong to larger networks is the cult-of-personality vibe. It seems to be what&#8217;s rewarded, if you&#8217;re starting without the backing of a professional advertising and marketing arm: lots of photos of yourself, lots of this-is-what-I-do.</p>
<p>Another good point to note is that a lot of the &#8220;pro bloggers&#8221; you mention <i>do not write their own content</i>. Yes, they generate some of it, and might have been on their own when they were starting out (and when the field was a lot less crowded). However, go to Apartment Therapy now and see how many posts are written by Maxwell? See how many people are writing posts, period?</p>
<p>Many popular &#8220;blogs&#8221; are actually small topical news organizations, and a number of the &#8220;blogs&#8221; listed on the recent 25 Best list in <i>Time</i> &#8212; like Metafilter and the Huffington Post (how is it super-different from Salon.com?) &#8212; seem an awful lot more like &#8220;sites&#8221; to me &#8212; the point is that there&#8217;s plenty of content being generated and, in at least a few cases, it&#8217;s either user-generated, or generated by people who will do it for the publicity or just because they enjoy being offered a large soapbox, or etc.</p>
<p>Eh, just some thoughts. :)</p>
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		<title>By: final fashion &#187; a week&#8217;s worth - 13-02-09</title>
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		<dc:creator>final fashion &#187; a week&#8217;s worth - 13-02-09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On Saturday I attended the Interior Design Show.  While this time none of my photos turned out, you can check out some amazing shots by Paul Baik at I want - I got, and read some of my thoughts inspired by the blogging panel here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On Saturday I attended the Interior Design Show.  While this time none of my photos turned out, you can check out some amazing shots by Paul Baik at I want &#8211; I got, and read some of my thoughts inspired by the blogging panel here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miss Elle - Don&#039;t be embarrassed!  Being a Pro-Blogger is totally cool!  I didn&#039;t mean to seem like I&#039;m putting PBs down, some of my favourite blogs are by Pro Bloggers.  Also, its not totally either/or, I think most bloggers who use their blogs to make a living do it from a combination of advertising and networking to sell services or products.

Your point about the competitive nature of Pro-Blogging is a good one for those who think its easy - PBs work HARD to get to where they are.  The bloggers at the IDS panel work on their blogs day and night.

Red - glad you like the name I came up with, I thought it was kind of silly but at least it gets across what I mean.  I started blogging for my own entertainment too, I definitely didn&#039;t become a Who-Blogger by design.

Re: Event invitations - you guys don&#039;t get them?  I know bloggers in Toronto/NY/Vancouver tend to be very active in the scene and get plenty of event invitations, but it might be a location thing?  The PR people here are very blog-savvy and very generous to us.

Lauren - I checked your blog and I bet you are on your way!  Just keep posting about the stuff you are into and with persistence, opportunities will come.

Ryan - some bloggers are just hobbyists, I think I am just trying to categorize the ones who blog for a living.  But I bet you have used your blog for networking as a writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss Elle &#8211; Don&#8217;t be embarrassed!  Being a Pro-Blogger is totally cool!  I didn&#8217;t mean to seem like I&#8217;m putting PBs down, some of my favourite blogs are by Pro Bloggers.  Also, its not totally either/or, I think most bloggers who use their blogs to make a living do it from a combination of advertising and networking to sell services or products.</p>
<p>Your point about the competitive nature of Pro-Blogging is a good one for those who think its easy &#8211; PBs work HARD to get to where they are.  The bloggers at the IDS panel work on their blogs day and night.</p>
<p>Red &#8211; glad you like the name I came up with, I thought it was kind of silly but at least it gets across what I mean.  I started blogging for my own entertainment too, I definitely didn&#8217;t become a Who-Blogger by design.</p>
<p>Re: Event invitations &#8211; you guys don&#8217;t get them?  I know bloggers in Toronto/NY/Vancouver tend to be very active in the scene and get plenty of event invitations, but it might be a location thing?  The PR people here are very blog-savvy and very generous to us.</p>
<p>Lauren &#8211; I checked your blog and I bet you are on your way!  Just keep posting about the stuff you are into and with persistence, opportunities will come.</p>
<p>Ryan &#8211; some bloggers are just hobbyists, I think I am just trying to categorize the ones who blog for a living.  But I bet you have used your blog for networking as a writer.</p>
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		<title>By: Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m working on being a &quot;Who-blogger&quot; (which is kind of the best title ever).  I currently run my blog basically for my own entertainment and the general debasement of the internets, but will be rolling out a new site soon that will offer more services besides just talking about my pubic hair.  

Yeah, I said it.  :)

And I wonder why *I* don&#039;t get event invitations...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working on being a &#8220;Who-blogger&#8221; (which is kind of the best title ever).  I currently run my blog basically for my own entertainment and the general debasement of the internets, but will be rolling out a new site soon that will offer more services besides just talking about my pubic hair.  </p>
<p>Yeah, I said it.  :)</p>
<p>And I wonder why *I* don&#8217;t get event invitations&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Elle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m kind of -embarrassed- to say that I&#039;m a Pro-Blogger after reading that. You really paint the dual-intent job to be so glamorous and upstanding, I kind of feel like a mooch who can&#039;t write, now. 

Regardless of that, I see what you&#039;re saying, and really envy people who don&#039;t write for a living and also blog. I get wrapped up into the Pro-Blogger sect because I&#039;m a freelance fashion editor who also writes a budget section - that&#039;s a lot of writing about one topic, for sure. I agree that non-pro-bloggers (meaning ANYONE, including Who-Bloggers) totally get overlooked. Hell, I&#039;m a full time blogger in the top 0.21% of Technorati blogs and I never get invited to anything. It&#039;s a rough world where your competition is in the range of 8M other blogs to worry about.

Maybe someday I&#039;ll have the opportunity to become a Who-Blogger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kind of -embarrassed- to say that I&#8217;m a Pro-Blogger after reading that. You really paint the dual-intent job to be so glamorous and upstanding, I kind of feel like a mooch who can&#8217;t write, now. </p>
<p>Regardless of that, I see what you&#8217;re saying, and really envy people who don&#8217;t write for a living and also blog. I get wrapped up into the Pro-Blogger sect because I&#8217;m a freelance fashion editor who also writes a budget section &#8211; that&#8217;s a lot of writing about one topic, for sure. I agree that non-pro-bloggers (meaning ANYONE, including Who-Bloggers) totally get overlooked. Hell, I&#8217;m a full time blogger in the top 0.21% of Technorati blogs and I never get invited to anything. It&#8217;s a rough world where your competition is in the range of 8M other blogs to worry about.</p>
<p>Maybe someday I&#8217;ll have the opportunity to become a Who-Blogger.</p>
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		<title>By: Link Love:&#160;2.12.09 &#124; Nubbytwiglet.com</title>
		<link>http://finalfashion.ca/just-a-thought-two-kinds-of-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-66588</link>
		<dc:creator>Link Love:&#160;2.12.09 &#124; Nubbytwiglet.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] kinds of bloggers (career bloggers vs. those who make livings indirectly from their blogs) and this article does an amazing job of summing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I were a Who-blogger. I blog in the hopes that some day I will be a Something-who-blogs for some sort of professional benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I were a Who-blogger. I blog in the hopes that some day I will be a Something-who-blogs for some sort of professional benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Owl Pellets &#171; The Grumpy Owl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owl Pellets &#171; The Grumpy Owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Two Kinds of Bloggers:  Danielle talks about two kinds of bloggers and points out a lopsided representation at conferences.  I can&#8217;t imagine going to a blogging conference.  I thought that&#8217;s what the internet was. [...]</description>
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